CE Marking on the Basis of EMC Pre Compliance Tests

Eurotech providing CE marking on the basis of EMC pre-compliance tests

You is it possible to response police officer tissue self certify with a lit lil all very limited budget and this person is a referring to saw spectrum analyzer and the or Manish Vig a spectrum analyzer with a bylaw cantana and in the lias an I'm sorry fine mess that up and you know what what comes to mind when reading this question is arm referring to some I'm EMC test equipment maybe then it's good to explain a little bit upholds what's test equipment you need to do full compliance testing I'm because having a spectrum analyzer and an intern is not going to do the job for you correct you know yet the equipment that these there in two years would form part

What I would describe as a pre compliance tests said so hmm and in fact the and I'm clients actually goes on to describe is actually wanting to you ship a small volume all pre who production arms and he's wanting to attach a CE mark se mmm and and he's also wanting to generate a declaration of conformity saying that product is in compliance mmm or might be in compliance hmm because he's not sure do the units testing successfully mmm an I think that this is an extremely young risky approach to me Puneet marking mmm an particularly as you are actually a low-key supply am prototype arts into the field hmm so see mark that day nation for which day but under some form of quality control hmm in other words needs records now your prostate waddle serial number real its being shipped to you and you need to be doing so the weekly who works or how'd the products actually performing whether it's causing any unions bunglers being into a few were no making legal declarations as in the declaration you for watching attaching a CE mark near indicating through compliance Wayne you do is on his complaint is my main very risky in lunar we can cover our yes there having a legal background a.m. so yes I would say a.m. by affixing a CE Marking to a product and by issuing drawing up signing a declaration of conformity you are as a manufacturer your indicating that the product complies with or all the requirements and that you have the evidence in your technical file hands and soul basically

You're saying its maybe mean we take EMC as an example because thats maybe also the most complicated one with with EMC EMC is invisible so the only way to determine where you comply is by testing tracks yes there's no visual inspection that you can do so you would need to do testing and them there is basically so EST text okay well and there is basically a the way did you test is I'm in accordance with standards correct yes and thank you what's called a presumption of compliance yes and also there will be no discussion because you are referring to in other documents not just you know your invention that this dust this product complies you're referring to the standard which is a consensus document and everybody's referring to that so a.m. your you will apply to standard but then of course I'm the market surveys authorities in the member states of the European Union seeing two CE Marking reading your declaration of conformity and they are going to look in your just sorry in your technical file to see if you have sufficient evidence to support your claim of CE compliance and the day will want to take a look test reports in his test report they're going to expect list of equipment that was used for testing and if this report is referring to just a spectrum analyzer an aunt Anna but not the equipment that is required to do for example certain immunity tests they're going to conclude that test report is incomplete and that the that the declaration of conformity is declaring compliance with the standard is also incomplete and therefore they're going to doubt the the validity of two CE Marking yen's and it is important to understand that so I'm the attachment to the CE mark declaration of conformity associated with I'm let's technical standards hmm I'm only use your presumption of conformity in other words were the way that's the standards areworded and fronts AT&T the indicates thats having passed all the tests that will then the standard does not it's only me your product is actually reach eat properly the role situations in the actual feel mmm-hmm no one in particular in the interesting synonymous with the I am Yuji is that we have been extremely cordial read you transmit so beast new rules and I'mbetween in the an iTunes between No east and west coast so I'm England's and that as a rule to whose alone site this know this particularly powerful read you transmit so and produces surname whatchu magnetic fields nick says a hundred volts per meter which is normal limits that sent for vehicles so if you test standards attach CepR drive your your cool

Which is being tested up to balls but yet so pass this antenna there's actually a chance that your view watch the stock yeah so in other words being able to touch a CE mark and having dogs who compliance testing doesn't necessarily mean your product is going to be. percent tame percent situations percent environments are available with the actual European Union it just gives you a presumption all them compliance gives you you know I've done as much as I fuels due diligence yes an you can rest on the actual so lolzzz

Where that you how reforms the compliance testing reserve haven't got the compliance testing and your product missed the EU's then you are in real problems yeah so if if we would have to give him tips about the you know with a limited budget which you can do their I'm I think during the interview with mentions already several things that would apply here but I think it would be good to start with the very good description of the intended purpose so in which environments are you going to is this product intended to be used because that means that you can exclude certain circumstances and and maybe some parts of standards will not apply and in so you're basically you're never bring down the the scope of standards and therefore maybe also the the amount of trust that you have to perform your and mean the graphic thoughts but this Sun questions enough's which I was thinking right-center an earlier today what is this product at this center gentleman speaking about is going to be used in me take some vitamins do you mean be that's an interesting saw thought do you mean am he knows it its intended to to function in such an environment or maybe the case that one of his clients Texas product and use it in such an environment he hasn't said its you know working blindly on the school or by application for product at least talking about turn but certainly compliance testing I would not recommend as a suitable solution I'm for use with a text buttons fights agreed ok very much if anybody a that was seen would think about using a prototype mmm a a text buttons on it it just seems like can holding a gun to your head a with all the bottles bills I'm playing Russian roulette yeah and India a.m. another step that that he can take his is if there are several models to you to make the cluster specifically for the year for testing a cluster of to try to basically trying to determine what is the worst-case configuration love this a particular device and yes the dan have that tested because well

Which especially with EMC it is a.m. the the more electronics that are introduced and more the the more complex the configuration is the more EMC problems you can expect correct great chance and then if you remove components from that you should only see improvements in your EMC measurements yes hmm yes so it's always a always good to you were to try to determine what is the most a complex configuration have debt tested for pre compliance and and and full compliance yes the a.m. them good d book an tax associates EMC testing is actually switch your device your testing all then run the tests hmm you still get see results could not do york-based this is all none yes it's like Jessica bridge yes yeah you detach CE mark for allege technical so bridge quite happily mmm-hmm because one it doesn't catch fire in yes you're not likely to get the electric shock or mmm-hmm and it's definitely see complying yes yes am I think I think its answers questions the answers the question that I received either I would also receive just now another question and this relates to a very particular a product which I have to say it's always difficult for us to am to answered very specific the or questions relates to very specific products because we don't we don't know the product we don't have we haven't seen a sample of it we haven't seen documentation so its it's really difficult to say something as sensible but a.m.

This is a question regarding a electrical muscle stimulation device and and a.m. the question is is basically related to I'm under which directive which standards it would fall so I can just say don't electrical electrical muscle stimulation device a.m. the gentleman ass kisses under LVD

Which it potentially years. at the sametime im it could be considered to be a medical device and that brings it into a completely different category love requirements with lot more requirements not only in terms of testing but also in terms of production requirements the having a need for a quality management system and and what have you so I'm the judgment ass kicked it would be a product that could fall understand it. and sixty and I'm part poor support thats that's possible and we would need to see the device and we would need to check to standard in order to be able to give a sensible answer there but and I think this question relates again to the importance all determining the intended purpose or yes product be for going into to directives and before trying to find the standards that apply in that you're going to use for the actual compliance testing

You your meant that I think you see there's there's the potential your with us to base to be lang considered to be a collect call I'm medical device from the point you actually applies but which school no shock the cash using its I am rich I have a funny feeling reads tensnake seal was our a normal works for grace that all electrical devices do not tend to be electric shocks a.m. therefore you get it CE mark so it proved it would tend to have to full medical nap cation my perspective where just us in are if you manufacture %uh reach you face mmm a cellular telephone them with the normal YMCMB you're not load so %um produced need you waves above a certain level am obviously that's impractical if you're new here review communication nice because part of its intended purpose is to produce you can you reuse mmm at certain frequency that assertion or lateral therefore it has to be approved disagreed you wrote the just a one or creepy so electrical equipment yeah to

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